tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8764541874043694159.post6555366321706385408..comments2024-03-29T07:36:55.897+00:00Comments on Coppola Comment: Landlings and sea creaturesFrances Coppolahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09399390283774592713noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8764541874043694159.post-25413860170243878002012-04-13T09:14:12.976+01:002012-04-13T09:14:12.976+01:00Yet another great blogpost Frances. It never ceas...Yet another great blogpost Frances. It never ceases to amaze me how left-leaning people, and liberal evangelicals, do exactly as you said - pick up on something you say, misunderstand or assume you are of a certain political bent, and then think they can deduce from that your opinion on every single issue - political, social, economic, whatever. <br /><br />It is frustrating and infuriating in the extreme!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8764541874043694159.post-83365635559492761812012-04-04T15:20:20.618+01:002012-04-04T15:20:20.618+01:00Quantitave economics depends on measurements from ...Quantitave economics depends on measurements from the past. <br /><br />There are four things wrong with this - the measurements are imperfect, the past is past and often either irrelevent or not contextually coherent to the present or future, people do not have consistent let alone linear and reversible responses and the models may well be wrong because they have been derived using data which have the first three errors.<br /><br />The alternative is to derive models that understand how people actually think and act, allow for the heterogeneity in life as well as incorporating the complexity of finance. This is as very tall order and we are a long way from this I think.<br /><br />Like you I populate that area which the tide washes over. I despair of journalists not understanding or at least not representing the facts properly but also of a largely innumerate population that doesn't seem to want to understand them. <br /><br />But it is a highly complex picture in many dimensions that is very difficult to describe. So it is very easy to claim a simple knee-jerk explanation and of course to blame anyone who complains of bias or stupidity. Unfortunately this is what sells newspapers - they pander to our prejudices so don't expect too much from any British publication - only the FT IMHO has a chance!John@MoneyPrinciplehttp://www.themoneyprinciple.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8764541874043694159.post-39845021247831515672012-03-29T19:23:51.014+01:002012-03-29T19:23:51.014+01:00This isn't a left-right thing. There is as muc...This isn't a left-right thing. There is as much spurious crap from rightwing politicians and commentators as there is from leftwing ones. For every Johann Hari and Polly Toynbee there's a Richard Littlejohn and Melanie Phillips. Chris Dillow pointed out that the job of columnists is not to be right, it's to reinforce the prejudices of their readers. And these readers don't like it when their beliefs are challenged.<br /><br />That said, I wouldn't have had William Keegan down as a 'sea creature'. I'll put his quoting of Eoin Clarke down to a momentary lapse.Rickhttp://flipchartfairytales.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8764541874043694159.post-86081927681027723232012-03-29T12:55:14.470+01:002012-03-29T12:55:14.470+01:00Clay,
Clay,
Haha. Since they like facts, landlin...Clay,<br /><br />Clay,<br /><br />Haha. Since they like facts, landlings would be likely to know that according to the Highway Code speed limits are the MAXIMUM speed you are legally allowed to go, but the actual speed that you should drive may be lower than that depending on road conditions. They might also be well-read on the consequences of driving faster than appropriate for the conditions. As I said, it's never that simple.Frances Coppolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09399390283774592713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8764541874043694159.post-72557520151654927792012-03-29T00:23:55.127+01:002012-03-29T00:23:55.127+01:00And I thought landlings stuck to given facts, show...And I thought landlings stuck to given facts, shows how wrong one can be when interpreting another's reasoning. Perhaps I should stick to calling them plebs, because they(the drivers) abide by rules which are neither here nor there.....Claynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8764541874043694159.post-16675813619627155232012-03-28T00:02:09.287+01:002012-03-28T00:02:09.287+01:00Interesting post. I'm not convinced that the ...Interesting post. I'm not convinced that the left is inherently less interested in factual accuracy than is the right: in the USA the Republicans have lost almost all contact with reality. As TTG suggests, being in opposition may be a factor.<br /><br />Personally, I think I find left-wing truthiness more jarring because I want the best arguments to be made for the things I believe in.PaulBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16861432701458977844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8764541874043694159.post-89527812971308913092012-03-27T23:45:21.465+01:002012-03-27T23:45:21.465+01:00Hiya Clay.
Sea creatures don't cling, they f...Hiya Clay. <br /><br />Sea creatures don't cling, they float. However, if your 35-mph merchant ignores speed limits because he believes he is a good driver who can judge safe speeds well enough himself, so the actual speed limits don't need to apply to him, then he is relying on belief in defiance of facts, which is sea creature behaviour. Alternatively he could be a very worried landling whose cruise control has got stuck.<br /><br />Your exact-speed-limit person, apart from being a tad OCD, is quite possibly someone who has recently been through a speed awareness course...in which case he's behaving rationally, which would suggest a landling. Or he could be a sea creature who believes that signs should always be observed exactly. Sticking exactly to speed limits regardless of the conditions wouldn't be landling behaviour. <br /><br />It's never that simple, is it?Frances Coppolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09399390283774592713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8764541874043694159.post-88508072015205735482012-03-27T20:58:49.691+01:002012-03-27T20:58:49.691+01:00Let me see if I've got this right. The other m...Let me see if I've got this right. The other morning I was following a car to work. We went through a 50mph limit road and the driver was doing 35mph according to my speedometer, then we entered a 60mph road, the driver continued at 35mph, we then went onto a 20mph road, the driver left me way behind so I will assume the speed was still 35mph, by the time we reached the 30mph road the driver was way in the distance, but I continued to lose ground on the driver's position. I would say the driver was a sea creature clinging to the 35mph rock. On the other hand, later that day when I was driving, I was following a car and the driver was sticking to the exact speed limits showing on the signs. To stay safe most people drive at near enough the limits, but follow the speed of traffic flow. I would call the second driver a landling. Have I grasped the gist of your types Frances?Claynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8764541874043694159.post-82941026067649694412012-03-27T20:08:39.063+01:002012-03-27T20:08:39.063+01:00Great post Frances....
Lesley xGreat post Frances.... <br /><br />Lesley xLesleyhttp://wheniwas8.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8764541874043694159.post-4602470324100059562012-03-27T18:16:34.414+01:002012-03-27T18:16:34.414+01:00Getting statistics from Eoin Clarke? for an articl...Getting statistics from Eoin Clarke? for an article (theoretically) aimed and grown-ups? Wow.. just.. WOW.<br /><br />I know lots of people take what Dear Richie write seriously, but I thought that even the most ardent left-sea-creatures only read Eion's stuff for the lolz.<br /><br />It's a challenge being someone who wants to dig through the spin (of both sides) and find the facts. Criminal misuse of statistics is widespread, and perhaps the left are the biggest offenders at the moment because they're in opposition. I rather wish I'd been reading the writers I read now prior to the election/crisis so that I could compare and contrast.<br /><br />I have no time for the mainstream on either side.. perhaps because both are dominated by the sea creatures, who are only interested in arming their troops with rhetoric and misunderstood graphs. This is why we have UKUncut fighting a good fight, but with all the wrong weapons. If I try and point this out then it's, apparently, because I'm a Tory.. not because I think that if we proles are ever to be taken seriously we need to inject some credibility into our debates.The Thought Ganghttp://www.thethoughtgang.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8764541874043694159.post-16696771805620310152012-03-26T23:43:34.710+01:002012-03-26T23:43:34.710+01:00Nice.
The problem with the landlings and the sea ...Nice.<br /> The problem with the landlings and the sea creatures is the both think mathematics is a science when it is really a language. A very precise one and also very discrete too. <br />Hope to see you on the beech more often.Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04362169593902131947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8764541874043694159.post-33822545179074839272012-03-26T22:25:18.032+01:002012-03-26T22:25:18.032+01:00What a fabulous blogpost..really enjoyable read an...What a fabulous blogpost..really enjoyable read and struck a few chords with me (no pun intended!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8764541874043694159.post-32442385433604854702012-03-26T10:07:27.521+01:002012-03-26T10:07:27.521+01:00More in similar vein here:
http://johnredwoodsdia...More in similar vein here:<br /><br />http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2012/03/25/will-the-media-ever-report-the-real-increases-in-overall-current-public-spending/<br /><br />I’ve often wondered what proportion of Guardian journalists have science degrees relative to the equivalent proportion for other newspapers.Ralph Musgravehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09443857766263185665noreply@blogger.com